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	<title>Comments on: Marc Fennell vs Television Idents.</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Fallon</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2009/04/14/marc-fennell-vs-television-idents/comment-page-1/#comment-205130</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Fallon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Video :)
I love the style, simple, cheap, effective and informative!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Video <img src='http://idents.tv/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I love the style, simple, cheap, effective and informative!</p>
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		<title>By: Slaker</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2009/04/14/marc-fennell-vs-television-idents/comment-page-1/#comment-195579</link>
		<dc:creator>Slaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 23:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, here&#039;s the thing Marc - there exists in any audience, those with a tendency to be offended by cheeky, amusing, satire if it&#039;s a little to close to home. Perhaps I’m wrong, but I’ve always felt this is pretty much the point of satire. As such, it&#039;s a little disappointing to see that as a Creative Industry, we&#039;re still a ways off handling criticism when it dares to wander through our front door … even when it&#039;s packaged as an entertaining piece for our amusement. Keep up the good work Marc, and I hope we can learn to start laughing at ourselves a little more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, here&#8217;s the thing Marc &#8211; there exists in any audience, those with a tendency to be offended by cheeky, amusing, satire if it&#8217;s a little to close to home. Perhaps I’m wrong, but I’ve always felt this is pretty much the point of satire. As such, it&#8217;s a little disappointing to see that as a Creative Industry, we&#8217;re still a ways off handling criticism when it dares to wander through our front door … even when it&#8217;s packaged as an entertaining piece for our amusement. Keep up the good work Marc, and I hope we can learn to start laughing at ourselves a little more.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 18:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice that he used the &quot;static screen&quot; with the &quot;chh&quot; sound from Charlie Brooker&#039;s Screenwipe and Newswipe. If you pause the video you can sort of see the &quot;BBC Four&quot; logo in the corner. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice that he used the &#8220;static screen&#8221; with the &#8220;chh&#8221; sound from Charlie Brooker&#8217;s Screenwipe and Newswipe. If you pause the video you can sort of see the &#8220;BBC Four&#8221; logo in the corner. <img src='http://idents.tv/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: This Time It's Personal</title>
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		<dc:creator>This Time It's Personal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I get that this video is just your opinion Marc, and is clearly not a subjective analysis, but either you&#039;re very biased or (more likely) you simply haven&#039;t done your homework.  

You point out that Nine ripped off ABC US while at the same time lauding Seven&#039;s work which was ripped off NBC...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLQ7G9lLHDw

...and say nothing about SBS using a Deep Forest clip as their own...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvnVdMpgQOk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I get that this video is just your opinion Marc, and is clearly not a subjective analysis, but either you&#8217;re very biased or (more likely) you simply haven&#8217;t done your homework.  </p>
<p>You point out that Nine ripped off ABC US while at the same time lauding Seven&#8217;s work which was ripped off NBC&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLQ7G9lLHDw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLQ7G9lLHDw</a></p>
<p>&#8230;and say nothing about SBS using a Deep Forest clip as their own&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvnVdMpgQOk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvnVdMpgQOk</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2009/04/14/marc-fennell-vs-television-idents/comment-page-1/#comment-192498</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 00:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z51Db55nZtE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izRnD7_Z1NA

yeah okay, i see it for sure. God, that Yellow they use is particularly hideous isn&#039;t it. Okay at risk of sounding like a total Ten groupie, I think they may have ripped it off and made it better. And lets be honest, how often does that happen when seven, nine or the abc rip off something. I swear I&#039;m not on the take from Ten. Scouts honour:) Thanks for helpin  me find the videos guys, I really really appreciate it.</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izRnD7_Z1NA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izRnD7_Z1NA</a></p>
<p>yeah okay, i see it for sure. God, that Yellow they use is particularly hideous isn&#8217;t it. Okay at risk of sounding like a total Ten groupie, I think they may have ripped it off and made it better. And lets be honest, how often does that happen when seven, nine or the abc rip off something. I swear I&#8217;m not on the take from Ten. Scouts honour:) Thanks for helpin  me find the videos guys, I really really appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Slaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 23:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Vdi7ZITWo&amp;feature=related

Man, that sure is some smokin&#039; gun!</description>
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<p>Man, that sure is some smokin&#8217; gun!</p>
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		<title>By: AOTB</title>
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		<dc:creator>AOTB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 01:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try about 2000-2001 - the slogan was &quot;Definitely abc&quot;, and at least of them used Coldplay&#039;s &quot;Yellow&quot;. Sound familiar. Also, if you want to extend the association to station logos, Ten&#039;s &#039;glossy button&#039; (first seen on Ten HD) looks like the brother of abc&#039;s current logo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try about 2000-2001 &#8211; the slogan was &#8220;Definitely abc&#8221;, and at least of them used Coldplay&#8217;s &#8220;Yellow&#8221;. Sound familiar. Also, if you want to extend the association to station logos, Ten&#8217;s &#8216;glossy button&#8217; (first seen on Ten HD) looks like the brother of abc&#8217;s current logo.</p>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm i couldnt find any.... any specific titles i should be looking for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm i couldnt find any&#8230;. any specific titles i should be looking for?</p>
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		<title>By: Tez</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2009/04/14/marc-fennell-vs-television-idents/comment-page-1/#comment-192108</link>
		<dc:creator>Tez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc go to you tube and checout clips of ABC USA circa 2002. that year Ten ran identical linups ids etc. And hasn&#039;t moved on a great deal since (well a bit) . Its sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc go to you tube and checout clips of ABC USA circa 2002. that year Ten ran identical linups ids etc. And hasn&#8217;t moved on a great deal since (well a bit) . Its sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Brekkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brekkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always got the impression the Ten presentation was universally hated.

Seven&#039;s One to Watch era was superb, but what followed isn&#039;t.  Apart from that though from what I&#039;ve seen there&#039;s been very little of note ident wise from Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always got the impression the Ten presentation was universally hated.</p>
<p>Seven&#8217;s One to Watch era was superb, but what followed isn&#8217;t.  Apart from that though from what I&#8217;ve seen there&#8217;s been very little of note ident wise from Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch AndyOZ. Still, every opinion is valid and i do admit that i rely on techniques like that a bit too much on occasions. And i&#039;d be a particularly big douchebag if i couldnt handle other people reviewing me, so its fair enough.

Tez, i&#039;ve never noticed any similarity between ABC USA and Ten Australia, i would love to see some clips though.  

Alex, thanks for posting it, ur posts made my life much easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch AndyOZ. Still, every opinion is valid and i do admit that i rely on techniques like that a bit too much on occasions. And i&#8217;d be a particularly big douchebag if i couldnt handle other people reviewing me, so its fair enough.</p>
<p>Tez, i&#8217;ve never noticed any similarity between ABC USA and Ten Australia, i would love to see some clips though.  </p>
<p>Alex, thanks for posting it, ur posts made my life much easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superb!</description>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2009/04/14/marc-fennell-vs-television-idents/comment-page-1/#comment-191847</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with what Marc says</description>
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		<title>By: Travis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is with this website and bagging everything that Nine does?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is with this website and bagging everything that Nine does?</p>
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		<title>By: AndyOZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyOZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never agree with anything Marc Fennel says...

...and this is no exception. 

I&#039;m sorry, but Marc has the type of personality that makes you want to lock him in a small, dark room. 

I&#039;ve suffered through his film &#039;reviews&#039; on Triple J for a few years and this video is a perfect example of his belief that &#039;overdoing&#039; everything makes it funny. It doesn&#039;t. You know what is funny? Charlie Brooker&#039;s calm, almost boring demeanor. Notice how Charlie doesn&#039;t feel the need to do (sigh) sudden cuts in the middle of a sentence to himself standing more to the left than he was earlier in the sentence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never agree with anything Marc Fennel says&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and this is no exception. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but Marc has the type of personality that makes you want to lock him in a small, dark room. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve suffered through his film &#8216;reviews&#8217; on Triple J for a few years and this video is a perfect example of his belief that &#8216;overdoing&#8217; everything makes it funny. It doesn&#8217;t. You know what is funny? Charlie Brooker&#8217;s calm, almost boring demeanor. Notice how Charlie doesn&#8217;t feel the need to do (sigh) sudden cuts in the middle of a sentence to himself standing more to the left than he was earlier in the sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 07:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HEY!!! OMG HE USED MY VIDEO FROM MY YOUTUBE PAGE!!! :D
From 4:54 - 5:02 you can see &#039;AustralianABC&#039; down the bottom of the page!
What a privilege to have that done to me! :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY!!! OMG HE USED MY VIDEO FROM MY YOUTUBE PAGE!!! <img src='http://idents.tv/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
From 4:54 &#8211; 5:02 you can see &#8216;AustralianABC&#8217; down the bottom of the page!<br />
What a privilege to have that done to me! <img src='http://idents.tv/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously?... please? I forgot that copying the US ABCs logo and emulating their IDs promos lineups etc. Constituted an original concept? PLease feel free to set me straight on this but come on.

Although I so agree with the comments about the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously?&#8230; please? I forgot that copying the US ABCs logo and emulating their IDs promos lineups etc. Constituted an original concept? PLease feel free to set me straight on this but come on.</p>
<p>Although I so agree with the comments about the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Slaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice one Marc. Very funny and oh so true...</description>
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