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		<title>By: adrian</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-27487</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;ve nationally changed the set from the local city to a stsndard office pic!</description>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-10836</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>righ on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>righ on</p>
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		<title>By: lidgey</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-10631</link>
		<dc:creator>lidgey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually produced the WIN news title sequences - and the reason they are not all glowing, singing dancing openers is down to money and time. We produced 24 different openers in 10 days, and budget restrictions meant that we had to get the local news cameramen to go out and shoot the end shot. On top of this we produced a slick and elegant news content package - that channel Nine decided to completely ignore and redesign themselves.

The openers for WIN were also produced and delivered in 16:9, so the 4;3 issue is most likely down to local trechnical contraints in the different regions.

It&#039;s always very easy for people to criticize other&#039;s work, but I am more confident that if anyone else was in the situaiton I was in, they wouldn&#039;t have done an oscar winning piece either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually produced the WIN news title sequences &#8211; and the reason they are not all glowing, singing dancing openers is down to money and time. We produced 24 different openers in 10 days, and budget restrictions meant that we had to get the local news cameramen to go out and shoot the end shot. On top of this we produced a slick and elegant news content package &#8211; that channel Nine decided to completely ignore and redesign themselves.</p>
<p>The openers for WIN were also produced and delivered in 16:9, so the 4;3 issue is most likely down to local trechnical contraints in the different regions.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always very easy for people to criticize other&#8217;s work, but I am more confident that if anyone else was in the situaiton I was in, they wouldn&#8217;t have done an oscar winning piece either.</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-8486</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>plus WIN news canbera, with peter leonard is top- rating. HA!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plus WIN news canbera, with peter leonard is top- rating. HA!!</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-6168</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 07:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>win news isnt that bad on sunshine coast from wat ive seen its not bad here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>win news isnt that bad on sunshine coast from wat ive seen its not bad here</p>
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		<title>By: stuart</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-3450</link>
		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 06:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and seven news is a sydney based news edition!!! wow canberra must really hate win and win news - time for prime to return to the 6pm bullition!!! u&#039;d win!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and seven news is a sydney based news edition!!! wow canberra must really hate win and win news &#8211; time for prime to return to the 6pm bullition!!! u&#8217;d win!!!</p>
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		<title>By: stuart</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-3449</link>
		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 06:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG!!! win news is shit!!! if you happen to look in the canberra times the other week there was a section on prime beating win in the news ratings!!! funny i think, people are more interested in watching seven&#039;s 6.00pm news than the local crappy win news followed by B-grade delayed national nine news!!! suck on that win, don&#039;t be suck tight arses!! spend some money on ur news!!! and fuck off that old peter guy!!! omg he is shit!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG!!! win news is shit!!! if you happen to look in the canberra times the other week there was a section on prime beating win in the news ratings!!! funny i think, people are more interested in watching seven&#8217;s 6.00pm news than the local crappy win news followed by B-grade delayed national nine news!!! suck on that win, don&#8217;t be suck tight arses!! spend some money on ur news!!! and fuck off that old peter guy!!! omg he is shit!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-2808</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see Prime news very often so I will use that as my excuse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see Prime news very often so I will use that as my excuse</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrod</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-2807</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How could you forget the lovley Natalie Forrest&#039;s name!!!! yeah i spose when i acctually think about it Dennis is good for the Win Bulitin, but i like it over summer when Garath Hall Gets a go. and what happened to Lucy Weddell? i loved her!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How could you forget the lovley Natalie Forrest&#8217;s name!!!! yeah i spose when i acctually think about it Dennis is good for the Win Bulitin, but i like it over summer when Garath Hall Gets a go. and what happened to Lucy Weddell? i loved her!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 06:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually like Dennis Walter, he does a decent job of reading the news, and for the sort of news that happens in regional areas everyday, it fits well. Although the Prime news reader is good (I forget her name) the stories on Prime are different to the WIN ones, so the reader has to be different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually like Dennis Walter, he does a decent job of reading the news, and for the sort of news that happens in regional areas everyday, it fits well. Although the Prime news reader is good (I forget her name) the stories on Prime are different to the WIN ones, so the reader has to be different.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrod</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-2794</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 09:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally Agree with you Matt but still they could try to use presenters that are remotley interesting. for instance we have Dennis Walter, he makes Mike Amourlook fantastic! he is just so bland and boring, whereas the prime news updates go for 3 minutes and are fresh and modern, Win is Just like Channel 9, old and boring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally Agree with you Matt but still they could try to use presenters that are remotley interesting. for instance we have Dennis Walter, he makes Mike Amourlook fantastic! he is just so bland and boring, whereas the prime news updates go for 3 minutes and are fresh and modern, Win is Just like Channel 9, old and boring.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-2791</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 05:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who complain about WIN News&#039; PQ always seem to forget they pump out over 30 different news bulitens each weeknight, and it costs a lot to do what they are doing now, and although it could be better, it could be a hell of a lot worse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who complain about WIN News&#8217; PQ always seem to forget they pump out over 30 different news bulitens each weeknight, and it costs a lot to do what they are doing now, and although it could be better, it could be a hell of a lot worse</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrod</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-2774</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Flashing dot i think is sposed to be on Canberra, the Ballarat one looks more like its in Horsham, they need to try and gety something right, i wish prime did a local news bulitin, it would run rings around win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Flashing dot i think is sposed to be on Canberra, the Ballarat one looks more like its in Horsham, they need to try and gety something right, i wish prime did a local news bulitin, it would run rings around win.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-2771</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 13:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what annoys me even more? The bloody dot flashing representing Sydney!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what annoys me even more? The bloody dot flashing representing Sydney!</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-2770</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 12:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WIN, from what I have heard, have widescreen capable cameras (I think they are even hard drive based ones).

The main problem is that the studio gear is quite old and only 4:3 capable. A digital playout server (which should get rid of the analogue tape problems) is coming either later this year or sometime next year according to the Content &amp; Technology magazine.
Either way, the vision switcher and maybe the studio cameras (depending on if they have dedicated cameras for the studio or not) as well as some other gear would need to be upgraded.

WIN in Wollongong have newer equipment (you can see the transparency on the aston on the finance updates compared to the astons on WIN Canberra&#039;s content. They also have a better quality picture (although they, AFAIK, are not running the new digital playout system)) and have a better PQ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WIN, from what I have heard, have widescreen capable cameras (I think they are even hard drive based ones).</p>
<p>The main problem is that the studio gear is quite old and only 4:3 capable. A digital playout server (which should get rid of the analogue tape problems) is coming either later this year or sometime next year according to the Content &amp; Technology magazine.<br />
Either way, the vision switcher and maybe the studio cameras (depending on if they have dedicated cameras for the studio or not) as well as some other gear would need to be upgraded.</p>
<p>WIN in Wollongong have newer equipment (you can see the transparency on the aston on the finance updates compared to the astons on WIN Canberra&#8217;s content. They also have a better quality picture (although they, AFAIK, are not running the new digital playout system)) and have a better PQ.</p>
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		<title>By: Cookie</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-2767</link>
		<dc:creator>Cookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 08:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks John, yeh the quality is horrble and what is the set it looks like they are filimg out of the office window</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks John, yeh the quality is horrble and what is the set it looks like they are filimg out of the office window</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Renwick</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-2766</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Renwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 03:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was just pitifull! It&#039;s disgracefull they aren&#039;t 16:9! I have seen Prime and Southern Cross updates and weather (neither make local bulletins anymore) and they have been widescreen. You&#039;d think the Nine Network would impose standards for their affiliates considering they are essentially using the same branding. But since their capitol city news broadcasts still feature Nine made stories in 4:3 (some look like they are on VHS) and they don&#039;t blow up footage from the perennially backward US to look wider, then I doubt they would request WIN do that. From all reports Nine is the most technically antiquated news service. They still don&#039;t have a fully digital network, nor digital editing services in many newsrooms and many still use physical tape and film which they cut together. Also they use 2 man news teams to run their old equipment whereas 10 and 7 only have 1 man teams and 7 in pariticular has the most advanced equipment in Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was just pitifull! It&#8217;s disgracefull they aren&#8217;t 16:9! I have seen Prime and Southern Cross updates and weather (neither make local bulletins anymore) and they have been widescreen. You&#8217;d think the Nine Network would impose standards for their affiliates considering they are essentially using the same branding. But since their capitol city news broadcasts still feature Nine made stories in 4:3 (some look like they are on VHS) and they don&#8217;t blow up footage from the perennially backward US to look wider, then I doubt they would request WIN do that. From all reports Nine is the most technically antiquated news service. They still don&#8217;t have a fully digital network, nor digital editing services in many newsrooms and many still use physical tape and film which they cut together. Also they use 2 man news teams to run their old equipment whereas 10 and 7 only have 1 man teams and 7 in pariticular has the most advanced equipment in Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrod</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-2762</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 00:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly the same as the Ballarat one except for the pic at the end, we have a overhead shot of Ballarat, were as you have Parliment House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly the same as the Ballarat one except for the pic at the end, we have a overhead shot of Ballarat, were as you have Parliment House.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 15:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree about the quality, yuck! 
I&#039;m guessing WIN are like ITV News, too cheap to go 16:9 fully! :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about the quality, yuck!<br />
I&#8217;m guessing WIN are like ITV News, too cheap to go 16:9 fully! <img src='http://idents.tv/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://idents.tv/blog/2006/07/06/news-through-43-eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-2759</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 14:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ewwww! This looks like what it feels like to have dandruff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ewwww! This looks like what it feels like to have dandruff!</p>
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